In this Future Materials Encounter, Pleun van Dijk, curator of the Future Materials Bank, sits in conversation with material designer Sarmīte Polakova to talk about PineSkin and PineResin, two circular projects by Studio Sarmīte that unveil the potential of two very common byproducts of the timber industry. During the conversation, Sarmīte and Pleun reflect on the overlooked potential of discarded materials, and how design can help broader society to understand materials in a better way, rethinking waste as a surplus, and collectively envision sustainable future scenarios.